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Intro of Grass Valley, CA. Fly Newbie 15 Years, 8 Months ago
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Hi, just joined the forum today. I live in Grass Valley, California. I am 43 and have decided to start Fly Fishing. Last time I did any fishing was in the 1970s when I was a kid so many years later I have picked up the Fly Fishing Bug and starting to read, picked up a casting DVD, and scoping out my 1st gear.
At this point I am looking for a fairly compact rod so I can pack with me. So many brands and so many options. Like eye candy. Wife and I have now been to Cabelas twice in Reno in the last couple months along with Scheels up there in Reno also. Also have been shopping at local stores here in the Sacramento area and one up here in my town. Even did Orvis over in Roseville.
Anyway, been scoping out 6 to 7 piece rods. Anyone here use a very compact rod? I even saw LL Bean has a 8 piece rod. I know casting can be a pain the more pieces you get but curious if anyone here has success with ultra small travel rods?
tj
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iceman (User)
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Re:Intro of Grass Valley, CA. Fly Newbie 15 Years, 8 Months ago
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I have a 9-foot, 5-weight rod (which i would consider the "classic" trout fishing rod for california) that breaks down into 4 peices. the hard tube/case i have for it is just over 2' long. it fits fine in overhead compartments in airplanes, and have flown with it as part of my carry on across the country without issue. also gone on lengthy road trips as well. works great, packs great. i also use it for high country back packing in yosemite (and it works great), and car camping many other places. ive never felt the need to go any smaller than that. Hope this helps narrow down your decision a little.
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JohnD (User)
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Re:Intro of Grass Valley, CA. Fly Newbie 15 Years, 8 Months ago
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I have an 4wt 8'6" Temple Forks 4pc for my travel rod. Very nice for the price and quite compact. Not sure about anything smaller. Used to be the more pieces the worse the action, but I think they've made improvements since I started fishing. Still, even for backpacking I'm not sure I'd need smaller than a 4pc rod.
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Ralph (User)
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Re:Intro of Grass Valley, CA. Fly Newbie 15 Years, 8 Months ago
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Before shopping at Cabelas or Scheels, take a long hard look at Nevada City Anglers in your own back yard. You MIGHT spend a few more dollars on the rod, but when you want to pick up some tippet or flies and the local fly shop has been pushed out of business by the big box stores, you will waste a lot of time and money getting to the next closest shop. Try getting a local fishing report from Cabelas.
I'd suggest a 9ft 5 weight 4 piece rod.
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Carpy (Moderator)
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Welcome aboard... 15 Years, 8 Months ago
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To answer your question I have never had the need for a ultra small travel rods. I've used 4 piece rods for traveling from Canada to Costa Rica and they have served me just fine. I also use them as my everyday rods as well.
Just my 2 cents
Paul
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Welcome 15 Years, 8 Months ago
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Let me be the first to say YOU SUCK! 
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— Harry Middleton (Rivers of Memory)
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Re:Intro of Grass Valley, CA. Fly Newbie 15 Years, 8 Months ago
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Welcome to the board.
My favorite rod is a 5 piece 5 wt, that casts like a dream.
Most of my rods are, however, 4 piece rods, and They travel well, cast well and the long ago problems with multiple ferrules are pretty much just that - long ago.
I agree with Ralph -if your local fly shop goes belly up, where will you go for the things you need today not in a week or so.
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Tight Lines,
Ed K
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Re:Intro of Grass Valley, CA. Fly Newbie 15 Years, 8 Months ago
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Well, I pulled the trigger on an LL Bean 8 Piece setup. I looked at all sorts of brands, models, you name it. I looked local, not so local, mail order. In the end, the LL Bean jumped out at me. The few reviews on the site were all good and it seems like a decent setup. But what do I know <grin>. In time, I will learn if this setup is right for me.
This is what I purchased.
http://tinyurl.com/ylml8d2
I plan on taking some classes and learning some basics first. Also have a Cabelas DVD I picked up on Flyfishing and will see if that can help but I feel some local hands on classes will do well. In fact, they have some classes also where they take you out where you can actually fish so I plan on taking those for sure. Next year though as the local place have done their last class for 2009 and will start up again January.
Plus I need to get a fishing license so I will do that Jan 1 so I get a full year of use. 8-)
tj
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Re:Intro of Grass Valley, CA. Fly Newbie 15 Years, 8 Months ago
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Young Grasshopper,
The Living Legend, Senor Shepherd the Great, has pondered your rod choice and the course of action you have elected to take in becoming a proficient flyangler. The Shepherd has concluded, that the path that you have chosen will lead to enlightenment. The Shepherd has noticed that most delusional newbies tend to believe that they're instantaneously destined to be the next Bob York and start out with a lightning fast, flagpole of a rod that they bought because they bought into the advertising hype they read about in some useless flyfishing rag. While they have delusions of Grandeur that "Big Name" fast-action stick that they bought because they sprung wood over the "That's the Rod Talkin'" ad, will be the instrument with which they will strike fear into the local fish populations, while on their way to leaving Shepherdlike wakes of sore lipped fish everywhere they go. This quite obviously doesn't happen and the idiots who start out fishing with Sage XP's, Loomis Streamdance and other "too fast for their casting stroke" rods end up buying more XP's thinking eventually they'll develop an XP casting stroke. This also doesn't happen, and these individuals eventually have to resort to pitching jigs, rapalas, sardine wrapped Gibbs Minnows, roe, and other baitfishing crap on flyrods while insisiting that it's flyfishing because they can't hook anything using flies because they never learned how to cast! Flyfishing is all about developing the ability to cast and control the line. The rod that you have selected should be soft enough for you to feel the rod loading and unloading as you're learning how to cast, and the decision to get some help early on via some casting lessons is the best investment a potential "legend in training" can make.
The Shepherd
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"Blinded by the light, wrapped up like a douche, another revisionist in the night!- Bruce Springsteen
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The Shepherd is also starting a hedge fund where members of the Shepherd's flock will be guaranteed a 25% annual rate of return! For more information about how you can become a member of the Shepherd's select flock, please send an e-mail containing all your account numbers to: Boatloadsofcash4theshepherd@fleecingofthesheeople.com
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"Citi and Morgan Stanley shall become one and merge into an offspring known as 'City Morgue'."- The Shepherd
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeople's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves." - The Shepherd
"In the Shepherd we trust, everyone else we monitor." - The Minions of the Truth™
"The darkness of fraud and deception ALWAYS retreats from the LIGHT OF THE TRUTH™!" - The Shepherd
"Everything is better in moderation, particularly moderation." - The Shepherd
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the fraud and the deception of the evil revisionists. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, that shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness for he is truly his brother's keeper and the savior of blind sheeople" - The Shepherd
"And the Shepherd said:'Let there be light!' and there was light; the darkness retreated and the truth was revealed!" - An enlightened sheeople
"Baaaaaaa!" - A blind sheeople
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"Receiver of light, the Kingdom of the Shepherd shall guide you and keep you from a restless heart, Deceiver of night, the revisionist that lies within you is the reason for your restless heart...." -Tony Martin
"We are poor little lambs, who have lost our way. Baa! Baa! Baa!" - The Flock
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Re:Intro of Grass Valley, CA. Fly Newbie 15 Years, 8 Months ago
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Well, the rod has changed. I received the LL Bean Rod Friday and it looks great. Problem though, #3 from the top rod piece would not fit into #4. The rest went in as smooth as butter. Manufacturing defect? LL Bean was ready to send quick a replacement but I saw as a sign something new arriving DOA and I just asked for my money back. So, rod is heading home to LL Bean. I really liked all about it. The reel was reel (no pun intended) slick but I just don't want to take any more chances.
So, I visited my local Nevada City Anglers again and today purchased a Redington setup from Tony. I saw just last night for 2010 they have a real nice 6 piece 3 wt Trout Classic rod that jumped at me. The brochure I had picked up at 1st from NCA did not show this rod so that is why I moved on. I wanted a 6 to 8 piece. Now, I am happy to see this new 6 piece and it is exactly what I need. Great warranty, I was able to buy local, and I am tickled pink. Just have to wait until the rod arrives though as it was not in his stock so he will order Monday.
Anyway, so it looks like Redington is my 1st setup.
Anyone else use this brand?
tj
amishman wrote:
Well, I pulled the trigger on an LL Bean 8 Piece setup. I looked at all sorts of brands, models, you name it. I looked local, not so local, mail order. In the end, the LL Bean jumped out at me. The few reviews on the site were all good and it seems like a decent setup. But what do I know <grin>. In time, I will learn if this setup is right for me.
This is what I purchased.
http://tinyurl.com/ylml8d2
I plan on taking some classes and learning some basics first. Also have a Cabelas DVD I picked up on Flyfishing and will see if that can help but I feel some local hands on classes will do well. In fact, they have some classes also where they take you out where you can actually fish so I plan on taking those for sure. Next year though as the local place have done their last class for 2009 and will start up again January.
Plus I need to get a fishing license so I will do that Jan 1 so I get a full year of use. 8-)
tj
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AbelBoy (User)
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Re:Intro of Grass Valley, CA. Fly Newbie 15 Years, 8 Months ago
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Hi TJ,
The second reel that I bought after I got back into the sport was a Redington. It was lighter than the no name brand reel that I had. And its drag was much smoother and powerful. It served me well, until I did my upgrade to Waterworks. The reel is still in use by one of my friends (almost 10 years later).
For the money, Redington makes a great product.
AB
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Last Edit: 2009/10/31 22:29 By AbelBoy.
Reason: typo
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a 3wt....? 15 Years, 8 Months ago
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Young Grasshopper,
The Shepherd regretfully has to inform you that your "Legend in Training" status has been revoked........
The Shepherd
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****** News Flash*****
The Shepherd is currently offering the Sheeople of this flock a chance to enroll in the Shepherd's Character Building course! For the small, nominal fee of $750 dollars, the Shepherd will travel to the Norcal location of your chosing, on a day and time that is convenient for you. Upon your arrival, the Shepherd will glove up and proceed to kick your ass up one side and down the other! Your asswhipping is guaranteed to include all of the following elements: cuts, abrasions, contusions, severe trama induced facial swelling, blackeyes, a fatlip or two, and significant but not life threatening blood loss! As a special bonus, you asswhipping may include the following: minor to medium severity concussions, a broken nose, bruised orbitals, califlower ear, and other assorted medium severity injuries. The Shepherd similarly guarantees that your asswhipping will NOT result in the following: broken limbs, fractured ribs, skull fractures, severe brain damage, or any other injuries that can be considered life threatening or altering, or that require prolonged medical treatment. However, if at any time during your asswhipping you elect to fight back, no such guarantee shall be given. Your whipping shall conclude with the landing of a flush power shot delivered with full leverage! This 'finishing touch' is likewise guaranteed to knock you into the middle of next week and render you into a perfect state of unconsciousness or your money back! Members of the flock whom the Shepherd is not fond of will qualify for a 50% discount!
"If it doesn't kill you, it serves to make you stronger" -The Shepherd
"The Trinity Dam Project will not result in the diversion of a single, solitary bucket of water."- Clair Engle, Former Senator, Crossdresser, Revisionist
"You should never trust a dude named after a chick!"- The Shepherd, Purveyor of the Truth, Angler extraordinaire, Living Legend
"Blinded by the light, wrapped up like a douche, another revisionist in the night!- Bruce Springsteen
"Tell me about those early rounds. When you were coming out what did you want to establish and prove in those first few rounds?" -Larry Merchant
"Establish who was gonna be the boss. There can only be one boss in here. I am the boss. This is my house. I live here."- Marlon Starling
"When the Shepherd talks, everybody listens!" E. F. Hutton
The Shepherd is also starting a hedge fund where members of the Shepherd's flock will be guaranteed a 25% annual rate of return! For more information about how you can become a member of the Shepherd's select flock, please send an e-mail containing all your account numbers to: Boatloadsofcash4theshepherd@fleecingofthesheeople.com
"....Yes we can!...."- Osama Obama, President, Eternal optimist and Harbinger of the Imminent Financial Doom!
"....No you can't!...." - The Shepherd, Prince of Economic Prognostication
"The S&P 500 shall come to be known as the S&P 300 by the end of 2009." -The Shepherd
"Citi and Morgan Stanley shall become one and merge into an offspring known as 'City Morgue'."- The Shepherd
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeople's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves." - The Shepherd
"In the Shepherd we trust, everyone else we monitor." - The Minions of the Truth™
"The darkness of fraud and deception ALWAYS retreats from the LIGHT OF THE TRUTH™!" - The Shepherd
"Everything is better in moderation, particularly moderation." - The Shepherd
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the fraud and the deception of the evil revisionists. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, that shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness for he is truly his brother's keeper and the savior of blind sheeople" - The Shepherd
"And the Shepherd said:'Let there be light!' and there was light; the darkness retreated and the truth was revealed!" - An enlightened sheeople
"Baaaaaaa!" - A blind sheeople
"I love the smell of napalm in the morning.... smells like... victory." - Lt. Col. Bill Kilgore
"...I wanna announce my presence with authority..." - Nuke Laloosh
"ARRRRrrrrrrrrGGGGGHHHHH!" - Godzilla
"Sing me a song, and you're a singer,do me a wrong and you're a bringer of evil." - Ronnie James Dio
"Receiver of light, the Kingdom of the Shepherd shall guide you and keep you from a restless heart, Deceiver of night, the revisionist that lies within you is the reason for your restless heart...." -Tony Martin
"We are poor little lambs, who have lost our way. Baa! Baa! Baa!" - The Flock
"...Put the hashpipe down...."-Greg "Hashpipe" Miller
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