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Indicator Fishing . . . 18 Years, 3 Months ago  
. . . is one indicator better or more acceptable than another (IE. yarn, foam, styrofoam, brightly tipped fly line, etc.) or is all indicator fiahing prostitution?

. . . this is a real question from a flyfisher of 34 years who lives in Nevada and is naive . . .

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Re:Indicator Fishing . . . 18 Years, 3 Months ago  
An indicator is a crutch for someone who never learned to properly nymph fish.
 
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Hey there gimpy . . . 18 Years, 3 Months ago  
. . . that sounds like an expert opinion on "crutches".
 
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Re:Indicator Fishing . . . 18 Years, 3 Months ago  
My dad never fished with an indicator when I was growing up either. He always used a dry line, small shot and short leader or a wet line and short leader. He watched the end of his line and felt change. I learned, but kinda like when cassettes replaced 45 and 33 1/3 records and I was able to get rid of the phonograph and several miles of extension cord in my truck & replace them with a tape deck . . . I evolved too.

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And what the hell IS center pinning anyway? no/msg 18 Years, 3 Months ago  
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Re:Indicator Fishing . . . 18 Years, 3 Months ago  
Cassettes? Are they better than 8 tracks? Where can I get some?
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Charlie ain't wrong... 18 Years, 3 Months ago  
and it'll take a better fisherman than me to say he is...about fishing that is...now on politics

As the NCFFB's bobicator of reputation, I can vouch that indicator fishing is usually a shortcut to successful catching, bypassing the nymphing learning curve.

In the old days when I steelheaded with Steve V, Pappy and Willie, Steve was a master at steelhead nymphing with a dry line. He taught Pappy, who was getting better at it just before they discovered center pin/float rod fishing. Willie either swung flies or used an indicator (although he hated it)once the water temps got winter-cold, and he used to marvel at Steve's success rate.

These guys caught fish, often. I didn't fish with them long enough to learn if indicator fishing was more successful, but I believe that in certain circumstances, if you're going for a maximum body count, a good bobicator will outfish a good nympher.

Keep in mind, Jeff, that a lot of the fishermen on this board value the craft more than the catch, and you can't argue that point since it's a matter of personal preference.

After becoming a pretty decent indicator fisher for steelhead, I find that I sometimes have to force myself to try other techniques, although as I'm fond of saying, "Let the water tell you which technique to use".

This past February on the American, swinging leeches was the technique that produced, so that's how I fished. I swung ESLs on the T then too, so I'm not really a die-hard bobicator, but that technique definitely has its place in my repertoire.

The other water that I fish a lot is the San Juan River in northern New Mexico. If the fish aren't rising, 98% of the fishermen on that blue ribbon stream use indicators. The reason is, when those bows inhale a size 24 nymph, the take is so soft that you can barely see a change in an indicator's float-path, when the 'cator is half the size of a dime. I think it would be really tough to detect that light take when nymphing.

As far as calling it "prostitution", just remember what Uncle Jack used to say...something like, "if you're not using bamboo and dries, you're not fly fishing"...and as a friend of mine likes to say, "We're talking about fishing here, not your immortal soul!", so what the hey, enjoy yourself and fish however you want.
 
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Last Edit: 2008/04/21 20:45 By Arizona Bruce. Reason: Add a thought
 
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Re:Indicator Fishing . . . 18 Years, 3 Months ago  
It depends on the water. For skinny water use a tiny indicator. For heavy/fast water use one of those big Bole's yarn indicators they sell in the fly shop.
Personally I find I catch more fish when I can high-stick without one and only put one on when I'm fishing big water. On the other hand Bjorn will catch just as many, or more, fish high sticking with an indicator on. It all comes down to how you feel most connected to your flies.
Don't let others tell you how to fish. Find out what works for you and don't be concerned with people's labels.
 
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Re:Indicator Fishing . . . 18 Years, 3 Months ago  
I'll go to hell for indicator fishing, but I won't for lying
If I'm just using it as an indicator (just to see motion in the leader like slack line through a trough/cut bank), just a little piece of yarn. Suspending heavy nymphs a small foam float.
 
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Re:Indicator Fishing . . . 18 Years, 3 Months ago  
Try one of those new "thingamabobber's". These guys hurt my feelings so I may switch back to high sticking the way I was taught in CO.

http://www...er+Strike+Indicator.html

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Last Edit: 2008/04/21 21:45 By Jet.
 
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In that case, just call me 18 Years, 3 Months ago  
gimpy

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Re:And what the hell IS center pinning anyway? no/msg 18 Years, 3 Months ago  
I did Google search on Center Pinning and there are websites that explain the technique.
 
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