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Re:Need help picking a Canoe! 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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Eric,
Just as you suggest, the tubular fram can bend, and it's very difficult to straighten. Also, since it is right in the mid-line of the boat, you have to step on it when getting in. I always found it awkward to have to add balancing on one foot on top of a pole to the awkwardness of balancing on one foot in a floating canoe!  Also, the frame is there to stiffen the hull since it is fairly thin material. If you ever did take this canoe in a river and wrapped it, it would be all over (same with an aluminum canoe). The thin plastic hull would most likely rupture, and the frame would be permanently ruined. On Old Town, Mad River, and others, the hull is made of a layered material called Royalex that has great memory. When these canoes get wrapped, they simply pop back out to their original shape.
As far as paddling the canoe solo, the proven way to do this is to "turn" the boat around bow to stern and sit in the bow (that has now become the stern) on (or in front of) the front seat. This puts you more toward the center of the canoe and makes it much more manageable.
Buzz
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Jet (User)
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Re:Need help picking a Canoe! 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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I've found a couple in my area.
13ft Coleman in good condition $200
16'6' Coleman Touring Canoe (2002) New $400
Not sure what touring means but that one is a good drive for me. The other is close but looks well used and he said it has foam on the side for stability/floatablity? Anyone ever hear of that? Let me know your thoughts?
Thanks,
Jet
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here you go 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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Beerfly (User)
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Re:Need help picking a Canoe! 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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Buzz wrote:
Eric,
Just as you suggest, the tubular fram can bend, and it's very difficult to straighten. Also, since it is right in the mid-line of the boat, you have to step on it when getting in. I always found it awkward to have to add balancing on one foot on top of a pole to the awkwardness of balancing on one foot in a floating canoe! Also, the frame is there to stiffen the hull since it is fairly thin material. If you ever did take this canoe in a river and wrapped it, it would be all over (same with an aluminum canoe). The thin plastic hull would most likely rupture, and the frame would be permanently ruined. On Old Town, Mad River, and others, the hull is made of a layered material called Royalex that has great memory. When these canoes get wrapped, they simply pop back out to their original shape.
As far as paddling the canoe solo, the proven way to do this is to "turn" the boat around bow to stern and sit in the bow (that has now become the stern) on (or in front of) the front seat. This puts you more toward the center of the canoe and makes it much more manageable.
Buzz
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Beerfly (User)
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Re:Need help picking a Canoe! 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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Buzz wrote:
Also, the frame is there to stiffen the hull since it is fairly thin material. If you ever did take this canoe in a river and wrapped it, it would be all over (same with an aluminum canoe). The thin plastic hull would most likely rupture, and the frame would be permanently ruined. On Old Town, Mad River, and others, the hull is made of a layered material called Royalex that has great memory. When these canoes get wrapped, they simply pop back out to their original shape.
Buzz
Mine (Coleman Scanoe) does have the tubular frame and I did wrap it (not the frame fortunately) and it still popped back into shape. No rupture in the body either. That was about 20 years ago and it's still doing strong.
Beerfly
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EricW (User)
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Re:Need help picking a Canoe! 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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Buzz wrote:
As far as paddling the canoe solo, the proven way to do this is to "turn" the boat around bow to stern and sit in the bow (that has now become the stern) on (or in front of) the front seat. This puts you more toward the center of the canoe and makes it much more manageable.
 I feel like a complete duffas (doofass? where's Carpy) for not picking up that myself! ... OK I'm over it. Thanks!
Beerfly,
Kayak sounds great. I've been keeping my eye out. Used one last year in Alberta and really enjoyed it. I was a little tentative at first until my buddy took a can of beer an hucked it way out into the lake. That was good motivation to get the paddles moving. Ended up with a lot of brilliant action shots like this one

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lee s. (User)
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Re:Need help picking a Canoe! 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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We have also had to switch back to the front seat and paddle from there (solo),to get anywhere into a headwind.
STILL love a canoe......
....lee s.
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Jet (User)
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Found one 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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Well I found a pretty good deal on a fibre glass canoe. Its not super light but I think I can manage it and it should make a fine starter canoe.
Thanks for all the help!
Joe
http://sac...t.org/boa/636912994.html
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