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Re:Truckee River Outfitter Closing 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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Ralph---Yeah I too am sad that TRO has left the local scene. Intially, when it opened in 2000(?), Andy was always there and he was the draw there being the knowledgable and congenial guy that he is. During the last 2-3 years he sort of disappeared and spent most of his time in the Reno Fly Shop. The staff at TRO was also congenial, some more so than others...with an occassional "know-it-all" behind the counter; which IMO is not always good for business. Locally, some of the staff became know as "Andy's groupies"; but unfortunately he was never around for them or for those older fly-anglers (...with fat wallets)who initally went to the shop to see and speak with Andy.
I think the fact that Andy was not present may have not have helped, even though, I'm guessing that the money made was mostly with the guide service. As for retail, I'm sure they moved some goods, but not alot. As for their fly inventory; it was always good...at the start of the season...then it got depleted by early summer and they seldom, it seemed, replenished the bins. So, a lot of locals, and visiting fly anglers, started to go to Mt Hardware & Sports because they always were replenishing their fly bins...and hence...purchased other incidental gear while they were there.
Interesting that you mention Mt Hardware and Sports. As I've previously posted, at least four people that work in the fishing department are hardcore fly anglers and extremely knowledgeable and are on top of existing conditions. One fella, John Lim, is the acknowledged lake expert; having fly fished the area's stillwaters for at least 35 years.
Frank R. Pisciotta
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Re:Truckee River Outfitter Closing 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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I've fished with John on occasion at Pyramid when he accompanied some of the other local guys. He definitely knows his stillwater.
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Mt Hardware & Sports in Truckee 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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Huck----Yes, John is very knowlegeable and will always dispense with a nuanced technique or piece of advice. He is there 2-3 days per week.
Also, during the "off-season" they have two fly fishing guides on staff in the fishing department. Currently they're present 4-5 days per week, but less when the season gets cranking...because they are guiding. Matt "Gilligan" Kole and "SawMill" Joe. Joe Cerniglia manages Sawmill Lake the local fly fishing only, fee lake located in the NorthStar area. There one can sight-fish for 2-4 pound "relocated" Mad River/Donaldson RainBows and the occassional Brown that Joe put in there two years ago...they've grown.
In addition to Joe and Matt, independent guides, who are Truckee full-time residents frequent the store and are always chatting with those guys in the fishing department. Hence, there is lots of local fly angling info being disseminated.
I know that Mt Harware & Sports is aware that TRO is no longer present and will fill the gap...and start stocking more fly fishing gear. I went there last week and now they have TFO rods. Already they had Scott rods and Simms waders and have always had a fully stocked fly tying area full of Umpqua and other well-know companies. Visit, you might be surprised.
In all honesty, I feel the store always had more fly fishing gear in stock than TRO. I think TRO's main focus was selling its "stabled" guide services and minimal retail. When Andy was no longer present there, IMO, less people visited. Simply, people wanted to see Andy.
Frank R. Pisciotta
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Re:Mt Hardware & Sports in Truckee 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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Re: TRO. Yeah, I always went to see Andy, primarily, and buy "Andy" flies while I was in.
As you know, Mtn Hardware is located more conveniently for just buzzing in/buzzing out. So that's historically where I stop for last minute stuff. Very well stocked store.
You can't beat RFS for Pyramid stuff though.
Can you see your deck planks yet?
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my guess is 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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they did a market study and discovered that Chico has a higher percentage of flyfishers then more urban areas..why else would we have 3 shops?
Paul
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why can't it get us out of it? - Will Rodgers
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Re:Truckee River Outfitter Closing 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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A friend of mine passed along the posts regarding Truckee River Outfitters closing. Thanks to those of you who expressed regret that TRO will not be open this season. I am the owner and it was a decision I would have liked to avoid. The reality for me right now is that the specialty fly business is experiencing a difficult time. The combination of an uncertain economy, Big Box stores expanding, internet sales, gas prices, etc. all contribute to this. Hopefully the closure will be for this summer only. I appreciate those of you who have patronized our stores (and other fly shops) in the past, and hope to see you all again in the future. Thanks for your kind words as well.
Dave Stanley - Reno Fly Shop/Truckee River Outfitters
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Re:Truckee River Outfitter Closing 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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Dave----We'll miss the shop and I'm hoping to see you reopen next season. IMO, a full-service fly fishing shop is and has always been welcomed in town. Personally, I'll miss talking fly fishing with the enthusiastic and knowlwedable guys you employed.
Frank R. Pisciotta...aka CyberFly
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I love talking fly-fishing. So, if you want some info on fly angling my "home waters" in the Truckee area, do not hesitate to contact me off the board; whether by phone (530-587-7333) or e-mail (cyberfly@cyberfly.com). Please be patient relative to a quick reply; most especially during May-October.
My latest crusade is limiting undo fly fishing guide impact on the Little Truckee River. This small venue is being abused my commericial guiding interests. Consequently the fishery is being abused, IMO, most especially by guides to the detriment of the fishery. Moderation is the key in usage.
During the last two seasons I've diplomatically mentioned to many guides that they should coordinate with others guides so that they minimize impact...it has been to no avail. Some entities are more guilty than others; weather independent or "stabled" (outfitter or fly shop). So I've just started taking this public. Any civil suggestions/comments on limiting guide impact would be appreciated.
For my complete bio go to www.cyberlfy.com; then click-on my photo.
NOW FOR THE SPAM!!
Simply, I'm a fly fishing junkie. In 1984, in order to justify my addiction, I started Thy Rod & Staff in Truckee; the longest existing, fly fishing guide service in the Tahoe area and possibly one of the longest in California. I'm an independent; so the "buck stops with me". I tailor trips to the specific desires and skill levels of the client; no "my way or the highway" guiding.
Simply, experience counts folks! 2009 will be my 26th year exclusively as a professional fly fishing guide in Truckee. As long as I enjoying the interaction with other passionate fly anglers and/or those new to the sport; my service will continue into the future. I also "host" fly fishing club outings.
Encouraged by clients & family I started the Reel School of Fly Fishing in 1996. There are scheduled one & two-day clinics through-out the "general" season; entailing a maximum 3-to-1 attendee-to-instructor ratio. Now, since the season if open year-round; I have a scheduled snow-shoe/fly fishing group-outing during March.
Again in 2010 I will be "hosting" two groups at a private lodge in Chilean Patagonia; located 2+hours from Coyhaique, Chile. The lodge accommodates six (6) fly anglers only. It is located in an isolated river valley (40 minute jet-boat ride down river...no roads). From my past experience in this area, I'm guessing it is like Montana was 50-60 years ago....far-far-away from the "real world". Inquire for specifics, I will be going there every year. I've arranged with the lodge for some incredible pricing for two "hosted" weeks in 2010. Also I can arrange other stays and special pricing...contact me.
Tight Lines-----*
Frank R. Pisciotta
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Deck planks/Run-off/Fishing 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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Huck...back as CyberFly....
The melt is starting and I am seeing 50% of my deck planks. I also repaired the deck railing that I told you about that collapsed under a huge roof unload in late February. Currently I've got a 3' snow-bank aside my driveway. My offical house entry is not fully accessibe so we're still using the garage entry.
The offical Sierra snow pack (locally)as of April 1 was 87% of normal...not sure what the water content is, but I believe it is below normal. You're on top of this data; is what I'm saying correct? I haven't bookmarked the site you sent me.
As for the fishing; simply we've not been catching numbers, but those fish netted are real quality; in the high teens and low 20's, both Brown and RainBows. The Skwalas and Winter stones are receding and being replaced with an ascending emergence of BWO's and scattering of March Browns...on both the LT and BT.
WOW!...I just got my new 5wt, 10' Z-Axis from UPS. I'm heading out the door, got to go to "work", scouting what's happening on the water and "field-test" this new rod..................life is good and Spring has sprung in the mountains.
Frank R. Pisciotta
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I love talking fly-fishing. So, if you want some info on fly angling my "home waters" in the Truckee area, do not hesitate to contact me off the board; whether by phone (530-587-7333) or e-mail (cyberfly@cyberfly.com). Please be patient relative to a quick reply; most especially during May-October.
My latest crusade is limiting undo fly fishing guide impact on the Little Truckee River. This small venue is being abused my commericial guiding interests. Consequently the fishery is being abused, IMO, most especially by guides to the detriment of the fishery. Moderation is the key in usage.
During the last two seasons I've diplomatically mentioned to many guides that they should coordinate with others guides so that they minimize impact...it has been to no avail. Some entities are more guilty than others; weather independent or "stabled" (outfitter or fly shop). So I've just started taking this public. Any civil suggestions/comments on limiting guide impact would be appreciated.
For my complete bio go to www.cyberlfy.com; then click-on my photo.
NOW FOR THE SPAM!!
Simply, I'm a fly fishing junkie. In 1984, in order to justify my addiction, I started Thy Rod & Staff in Truckee; the longest existing, fly fishing guide service in the Tahoe area and possibly one of the longest in California. I'm an independent; so the "buck stops with me". I tailor trips to the specific desires and skill levels of the client; no "my way or the highway" guiding.
Simply, experience counts folks! 2009 will be my 26th year exclusively as a professional fly fishing guide in Truckee. As long as I enjoying the interaction with other passionate fly anglers and/or those new to the sport; my service will continue into the future. I also "host" fly fishing club outings.
Encouraged by clients & family I started the Reel School of Fly Fishing in 1996. There are scheduled one & two-day clinics through-out the "general" season; entailing a maximum 3-to-1 attendee-to-instructor ratio. Now, since the season if open year-round; I have a scheduled snow-shoe/fly fishing group-outing during March.
Again in 2010 I will be "hosting" two groups at a private lodge in Chilean Patagonia; located 2+hours from Coyhaique, Chile. The lodge accommodates six (6) fly anglers only. It is located in an isolated river valley (40 minute jet-boat ride down river...no roads). From my past experience in this area, I'm guessing it is like Montana was 50-60 years ago....far-far-away from the "real world". Inquire for specifics, I will be going there every year. I've arranged with the lodge for some incredible pricing for two "hosted" weeks in 2010. Also I can arrange other stays and special pricing...contact me.
Tight Lines-----*
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Re:Deck planks/Run-off/Fishing 17 Years, 6 Months ago
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Snowpack @ Truckee #2 station (6500 ft) is 35.4" as of this morning. SWE is 81%, but earlier in Mar. it was near 100 as I recall, so a lot of the difference is hopefully already in the ground.
Been working my --- off and landscaping that white elephant I built but I'll be around on 4/26. Glad ya got yer rail fixed--kinda messy when a roof avalanche blows 'em out.
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