The Northern California Fly Fishing Board

Bjorn wrote:

I made a mistake in using the guide's name and I felt bad about that in retrospect. But the rest of it, just total bullshit and how the treat anyone new.

Actually I think you made more then one mistake as they pointed out. Here's a list I compiled from the thread along with some comments.

1. You bad mouthed a guide(and named him)and then asked the folks to give you some info.

That made you look very unappreciative as well as lazy. Too lazy to do the work yourself and eager to beat someone up if the info isn't to your liking.

2. You asked complete strangers for this secret info.

Remember, you don't even know those people and don't contribute to their site but you want directions to their honey water in the Bahamas? Since you don't fish there you don't have any real feelings for the place one way or another. People that fish there on a regular basis probably do. What if someone that's never contributed to this board was to stop by and ask for your best spots on the Mac or Upper Sac?

3. "Pretty clear I won't get much useful advice here"

That's a quote from you very early on. It shows that you were only using them for info and implies that the place has little value in your mind because they didn't wait on you hand and foot. It makes it look like you think that place as some sort of obligation to help you out. Remember, you don't know these people, you haven't contributed to their site, you're stealing from them, you're bad mouthing a guide and asking for free info and now you're complaining about the service????

4. You posted without getting a feel for the place first.

That's just plain common sense. That's like walking into a bar and talking trash about motorcycles before you look around and see that you're in a biker bar.

5. You posted a link to your blog in your profile.

First off, blogs are stupid. The people that start them usually don't have a clue what the hell they're talking about and your blog is a perfect example. You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground about bonefish and yet you have this whole spot dedicated to telling people how to do it??

6. You took pictures and reports from that site without asking anyone.

What's worse is that when they let you know that they were unhappy about it you pretty much told them that if they didn't like it they shouldn't have put them on the Internet. First off, taking something without asking is impolite. You should have learned that as a child. But you took it a step further. You basic told them you were entitled to it because they weren't guarding it well enough. There point seemed to be completely lost on you. They even directed you to some pics on your blog that had copyright info on the bottom that said they can't be used without permission. You didn't even take that off the picture.

I hope this helped..