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Salman (User)

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A stimulating question 13 Years, 5 Months ago
been tyeing a few stimulators for the opener and did a test float on them, some floated great, some were a bit sparse and did ride low and some rolled over on the side. So I'm wondering if they rolled over cuz the wing is to bulky or is it the angle of the wing or both ? any tips appreciated

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Send me a 13 Years, 5 Months ago
dozen and I will field test them. Paul

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#17187

Salman (User)

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Re:Send me a 13 Years, 5 Months ago
sure but I'll have to blend up some more dubing first and get this roll over problem solved... I'm going to test the next batch with some grease on the wing...or did you want the ones that roll over

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Re:A stimulating question 13 Years, 5 Months ago
Mark, Regardless of whether the hackle was sparse or full, flies tend to roll to the side if the hackle is too long (greater than the hook gap)especially if there is a lot of wing or other stuff that raises the center of gravity. Paul

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#17189

Salman (User)

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My eyeball hackle guage 13 Years, 5 Months ago
said I was useing a #10 hackle on a #8 hook so I figured I had that part wooped, on a couple of these the kackle is slightly longer than the gape. I'll tie the next batch with a shorter hackle. Thanks for the tip Paul ! Imagine something round wanting to roll

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Clean shave 13 Years, 5 Months ago
so I trimmed the hackle on the under side and now I have a low water fly but is is sitting upright

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Last Edit: 2012/01/07 09:58 By Salman.

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Re:Clean shave no/msg 13 Years, 5 Months ago
Hey Mark, I'm by no means an expert,I use stimulators allot and have had similar issues when using a long leader and fine tippets,the effect of your back cast can sometimes spin the fly and put twists in the tippet and cause your fly to roll over,I now trim the top and bottom hackle to eliminate the propeller effect,and I prefer the body of the fly sitting in the surface film

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#17192

Salman (User)

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no back cast involved 13 Years, 5 Months ago

Hello Victor, I was just putting some time in at the vise
tyeing Stimulators and decided to float test a few so I tossed
them in...the first one rolled over, the next one sat low
in the film.. it was sparsely tied and started to sink after
30 seconds or so, I can except that and the 3rd one was
purfect so I think Paul nailed it with a hackle that was
over sized. I just going to drop the hackle size and tie
the next batch sparse!

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Re:A stimulating question 13 Years, 5 Months ago
pgw wrote: Mark, Regardless of whether the hackle was sparse or full, flies tend to roll to the side if the hackle is too long (greater than the hook gap)especially if there is a lot of wing or other stuff that raises the center of gravity. Paul Interesting, learn something new everyday. Of course with tying I am kind of an empty vessal.

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Salman (User)

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some choose to buy 13 Years, 5 Months ago
I prefer to tye my own...get a greater satisfaction out of catching fish on something I created !

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Salman (User)

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A stimulating pic 13 Years, 5 Months ago
after tyeing a few this is what I have setteled on its not a sparse tie but it floats great and no roll over. another dozen should last m awhile