The Northern California Fly Fishing Board

Put your fishing license back in your pocket where it belongs!

As of March 1, 2010, we California anglers are no longer required to display our fishing license above the waist. It can stay in our wallets where they belong.

Thank you to The Sportfishing Conservancy and Tom Raftican for gathering signatures and pushing for the elimination of this regulation.

Well thought out, since the state is broke and the DFG is understaffed. Why not cater to the poachers and make it more difficult to figure out who is legal. Yeah, I have lost my license before by having to display it, but it seems worth the cost. But to your benefit at least you will have something below the waist to proudly display when asked.

Do you really think that law prevented one poacher from fishing without a license?

We have had car registration sticker on the backs of our vehicles for 90 years, but I can drive down the freeway right now and see at least 3 cars in the first mile with expired tags without even trying hard. There is no shortage CHP officers and local LEO's to enforce it. Last week I drove thru a field sobriety checkpoint, where they check you for CDL, insurance card and they check your registration stickers, there was an entire line of people flipping a left turn before the checkpoint with expired tags.

My new fishing license was printed off my computers printer, on beige paper, lets see a DFG warden with binos figure out if that is a real license or not from 200 yards.

Yes,

I do. It's called peer pressure, there is a poacher’s line you can call, and while the DFG may not show up, since they are understaffed as previously mentioned. Poacers may feel uncomfortable if they are the only (one)’s not displaying a license. The vehicle registration thing seems to be a separate issue, but since they aren’t understaffed, maybe they could make two checkpoints. One that is visible, and another for those who turn around.

troutnut wrote:
Do you really think that law prevented one poacher from fishing without a license?

I didn't really like that law either but it did make it easier for DFG to see from a distance who had a licence and who didn't. I on one occasion saw a warden with binoculars spot someone on the other side of the lower Kings river without a license and watched him direct another warden to his position so yes, I do believe it helped.

We have had car registration sticker on the backs of our vehicles for 90 years, but I can drive down the freeway right now and see at least 3 cars in the first mile with expired tags without even trying hard.

You're exaggerating things again. That kinda kills your point when you do that. But as far as tags go... Cops can't pull someone over just to check them out so if we didn't have to place our tags on our plates they wouldn't have anyway to know who had them and who didn't so that's probably not the best parallel




Last week I drove thru a field sobriety checkpoint, where they check you for CDL, insurance card and they check your registration stickers, there was an entire line of people flipping a left turn before the checkpoint with expired tags.

You're exaggerating again dude. You saw a whole line of people turning around? BS. There are extra cops(usually on motorcycles) at check points that chase down the cars that turn around anyway.

My new fishing license was printed off my computers printer, on beige paper, lets see a DFG warden with binos figure out if that is a real license or not from 200 yards.

That's excatly why they decided to change the law.

Tell ya what Shawn, I have to drive to Hayward tomorrow, If I can get PHOTOS of 30+ cars with expired tags, what will you give me?

troutnut wrote:
Tell ya what Shawn, I have to drive to Hayward tomorrow, If I can get PHOTOS of 30+ cars with expired tags, what will you give me?

I won't give you anything but lets see it anyway.

here ya go:

before I got to the gas station Jan 2010, missed one in the left turn lane in Suisun City.


expired 2009, on Hwy 12, missed one Jan 2010 blasting by, my little minivan doesn't go that fast.


Feb 2010


2009, missed 2 other ones getting this one


Prius with 2009 tag in the carpool lane (hope the accelerator doesn't stick wide open, I doubt they have insurance!


down in Emeryville, Nov 2009 expired


feb 2010 expired


here's a double, Jan 2010 on the right (red) and a 2009 on the left


closeup of the previous left car Nov 2009


jan 2010


Jan 2010


another Jan 2010 and I missed another that got off the offramp just before this one


Jan 2009 partially peeled, probably peeled the 2010 off


the Mistubshi in the left turn lane Jan 2010

Looks like you win Shawn...some of those may be legit..most are hard to see. Lets hope the driver wasn't the one taking the pics.

Jan 2010


2009


at Costco San Leandro dec 2009


on A st San Leandro feb 2009



Jan 2010 at Costco again


2 cars down at Costco Feb 2010


other side of the aisle at Costco, covered with Obama stickers, Hope. Change. Kum-buy-ya May 2009 EXPIRED, I guess they need a Republican to pay their tags


tags expired June 2009, temporary expired Feb 2010. Do you wanna bet he has no insurance, no smog, or neither?


Dec 2009 in Hayward by the Dr.'s office


oct 2009 at the Dr.'s office


3 stalls down at Dr.'s office feb 2010


2009 on the way home on 580 by Don Hicks house, had to get more batteries for camera, too many pictures!


Feb 2010


30 seconds later CHP cruiser with 2 officers buzzes by him, doesn't pull him over.


Jan 2010, powered by bio-diesel, so he doesn't pay fuel taxes either


expired Sept 2009 EB 24 JEO Caldacott tunnel

This one is a Classic, license plate frame from Napa dealer, expired Arizona plates, with a Handicap California mirror hanger. Which state?


expired feb 2010


Jan 2010


Feb 2010


Jan 2010


2009 at 24 Hour Fitness


Sept 2009 at 24 Hour Fitness


next car over at 24 Hour Fitness



2 cars down from the Ford



BMW on the road to my street, expired 2009




The Prosecution Rests, Your Honor.

I didn't even try that hard, 10 am to 2:30 pm, only did the easy ones that I could get pics of, I misses probably 20 more in left turn lanes or passed me too quick.

Laughs.... The Feb 2010's are only expired by 2 weeks, my guess is they're getting taken car of. In one of the pics you mention that a CHP passes a Feb 2010 and didn't pull him over. That's because they give a month or 2 leeway because most of those are in the mail. I also have a feeling your Jan 2010's could be Jun's, I almost got fooled by some of those today myself. I guess we'll just have to take your word on most of those, I can't even see them. The 2009's are the only really legit ones you have if you ask me but if you want to include the folks that are waiting for theirs in the mail fine. You may even have 30 or more too, I didn't count. I only saw 3 on the way home today. One Nov 2009, Jun 2009 and Feb 2010. I was able to tell these folks didn't have tags because we're required to have tags displayed on our plates so I could see they didn't have theirs. I'm curious, how could you tell the folks you found didn't have current tags?