sorry
Kathline ,i didnt mean to come across as slamming kayakers ,it was just my poor wording that made it seem that way ,please forgive my foul language .
the kayakers have done much work for the Moke ,and i believe their efforts were responsible for the building of the middle bar take out .
also allowing river access to a section once closed by EBMUD.
Id hate to lose Middle bar and possible electra .
So how do you think will the new dam effect the flows on the electra section of the moke ?
Ive just got this feeling it will turn it into slower water ,like below middle bar .

AKA Clinton bridge
Good to see you here
Thanks
Steve e